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There's one thing some of you are forgetting. Pearl is her half sister. Clearly Pearl was raised thinking she was alone. As soon as she found out Iris was her sister that would change things considerably. She would see it as one big happy family then :pearly:
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There's one thing some of you are forgetting. Pearl is her half sister. Clearly Pearl was raised thinking she was alone. As soon as she found out Iris was her sister that would change things considerably. She would see it as one big happy family then :pearly:


that changes nothing though.

Pearl was raised all alone no matter what. the only person there for her was Maya. Iris was never there for her. Pearl would never want to abandon the only person close to her as a sister for her real sister that she never knew. It's just like many adopted children wouldn't leave their foster home for their their biological parents unless the foster parents were insane. Many of my friends with stepparents would rebel if they were forced to be with their biological mother or father.

Maya's and Pearl's bond is stronger than Pearl's and Iris' will ever be. Maya has been acting more like Pearl's sister throughout all of Pearl's life, it's not like she'd immediately abandon her in favour of Iris. If anything, if Iris revealed to Pearl that she was her half-sister Pearl would get confused and uncomfortable.
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Pearl wouldn't slap Iris, she would only slap Phoenix...
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Femme Fatale wrote:
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There's one thing some of you are forgetting. Pearl is her half sister. Clearly Pearl was raised thinking she was alone. As soon as she found out Iris was her sister that would change things considerably. She would see it as one big happy family then :pearly:


that changes nothing though.

Pearl was raised all alone no matter what. the only person there for her was Maya. Iris was never there for her. Pearl would never want to abandon the only person close to her as a sister for her real sister that she never knew. It's just like many adopted children wouldn't leave their foster home for their their biological parents unless the foster parents were insane. Many of my friends with stepparents would rebel if they were forced to be with their biological mother or father.

Who said anything about Pearl abandoning Maya? I didn't. And i don't see how the 2nd part of that is relevant to that.

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Maya's and Pearl's bond is stronger than Pearl's and Iris' will ever be. Maya has been acting more like Pearl's sister throughout all of Pearl's life, it's not like she'd immediately abandon her in favour of Iris. If anything, if Iris revealed to Pearl that she was her half-sister Pearl would get confused and uncomfortable.


I don't see how she'd become confused or uncomfortable with the idea.
And again who said anything about Pearl abandoning Maya? You know she wouldn't do that.

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you seem to be suggesting that Pearl would immediately stop wanting Maya and Phoenix to get together in favour of wanting Phoenix and Iris to get together for no reason other than the fact that Iris her half-sister.
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Femme Fatale wrote:
you seem to be suggesting that Pearl would immediately stop wanting Maya and Phoenix to get together in favour of wanting Phoenix and Iris to get together for no reason other than the fact that Iris her half-sister.


The way you said it i thought you meant as in drop Maya as a friend period.
And since it's getting into Maya more, i think if this debate continues it'll have to be moved to the pairing debate thread. This thread is for P/I FAN talk after all.

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I was just disagreeing with the idea that Pearls would immediately be supportive of Iris. That was what the topic of discussion was about, yes? "How would characters react?" I said Pearls would be more confused and uncomfortable than approving.
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I was just disagreeing with the idea that Pearls would immediately be supportive of Iris. That was what the topic of discussion was about, yes? "How would characters react?" I said Pearls would be more confused and uncomfortable than approving.


She would be immeadiately supportive of Iris. The idea of Iris being Phoenix's special someone might take a little more time (at least 3 dates worth).
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If I discovered I had a long-lost, older half sibling, I'd be pretty delighted.

Not sure about Pearl though...

Maybe this would be better for the debate thread.....
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Johnny Rotan wrote:
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I was just disagreeing with the idea that Pearls would immediately be supportive of Iris. That was what the topic of discussion was about, yes? "How would characters react?" I said Pearls would be more confused and uncomfortable than approving.


She would be immeadiately supportive of Iris. The idea of Iris being Phoenix's special someone might take a little more time (at least 3 dates worth).


I don't think we can know that for certain. She had been basically lied to her who life. She might be offended that no one thought she was mature enough to know the truth. Depending on how she finds out, she could be very upset to learn this truth.

Actually, my sister discovered that she had an older half sister by over hearing my parents talk about it once. She wasn't excited about it at all and I think it still upsets her to talk about it this day, almost thirty years later.
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I think we should dump this topic and move on to another one that properly respects this pairing. Who in the AA universe would be supportive of this pairing and who would have issues with it?


Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Not to pick a fight here, but how is discussing genderbending disrespectful to the pairing? I understand if such things squick you due to religious reasons, but not everyone in this thread feels the same way. Before you tell us to be respectful of the topic, you need to show respect to your fellow posters. Some of us like yaoi, yuri, or gender ambiguity. Some of us may be homosexual.

Anywho, I believe that Pearl finding out that Phoenix chose Iris over Maya would be the cause of some angst. I don't believe that she'd go for it immediately, but I do believe that if she became convinced that Maya was okay with it, she'd accept it, too. Pearl's also pretty young, so I think she'd learn to accept Iris as her big sister. This is not to say that Iris would replace Maya, but I don't think there's any reason why Iris and Pearl couldn't develop a strong bond.

And if Iris and Phoenix marry, Nick would officially be Pearl's brother-in-law. And Trucy and Pearl would be cousins. :D
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This is not to say that Iris would replace Maya, but I don't think there's any reason why Iris and Pearl couldn't develop a strong bond.


See Lunaria's statement below for my answer. XD

Just saying that there's a reason for it to happen. I don't know if it's true.

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Actually, my sister discovered that she had an older half sister by over hearing my parents talk about it once. She wasn't excited about it at all and I think it still upsets her to talk about it this day, almost thirty years later.


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Pearl is still a child, and, let's face it, she isn't the most mature girl you've ever seen in a game. She's still got her whole life ahead of herself, and I think that she'll eventually accept Phoenix choosing Iris over Maya, as she matures. When she does, she'll realize (if she really cares about Nick) that his happiness should be hers, as well.
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I don't think Pearl would be *happy* with Iris, but she'd be glad to find out she wasn't alone and might even someday be happy for Phoenix and Iris. Nor would she forget Maya. Pearl has a happy nature and can hold a lot of people in her heart.

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*wanders in* I'm BAAAAACK!

I don't think Pearl would be *happy* with Iris, but she'd be glad to find out she wasn't alone and might even someday be happy for Phoenix and Iris. Nor would she forget Maya. Pearl has a happy nature and can hold a lot of people in her heart.

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I started wondering about something a couple of days:Does Iris or Pearls know that they are half sisters?
If not:then the could hide it,send her to maya and Phoenix and Iris could live their life together
With trucy of course :minuki:
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Thank you!
I don't think Phoenix would go for the deceit...
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I don't think Phoenix would go for the deceit...

but didn´t he say something like avoid a trauma for pearls since her aunt got killed and her (half-)sister goes into prison
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He still wouldn't like deceit, because that is closely related to lying, and Phoenix has issues with lying. Also, that might seem to him like betraying Pearl, and as said in Justice for All, betrayal is one thing he can't forgive.
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He still wouldn't like deceit, because that is closely related to lying, and Phoenix has issues with lying. Also, that might seem to him like betraying Pearl, and as said in Justice for All, betrayal is one thing he can't forgive.

But in GS4 he also has a ton of secrets
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Holding secrets is not the same as lying.
Also: I haven't played Apollo Justice, so I can't judge by it. :franny:
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Holding secrets is not the same as lying.
Also: I haven't played Apollo Justice, so I can't judge by it. :franny:

Urgh
I am sorry :beef:
BUT:tell nothing is like hiding the truth and if u hide the truth u lie
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Heh. Don't worry about it.
But are all these secrets his to tell? I hate to quote Twilight, but 'Sometimes, it's not your secret to tell.'
Just yes or no for that one, please. Details are spoilers, and I expect to get the game soon.
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Heh. Don't worry about it.
But are all these secrets his to tell? I hate to quote Twilight, but 'Sometimes, it's not your secret to tell.'
Just yes or no for that one, please. Details are spoilers, and I expect to get the game soon.

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Gah...I concede that point, then.
Alright, then... Does he believe that people need to know? I would never dare tell my crush that I like him, because he doesn't need to know, for example.
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JasmineJustice wrote:
Gah...I concede that point, then.
Alright, then... Does he believe that people need to know? I would never dare tell my crush that I like him, because he doesn't need to know, for example.

A crush should learn about your feelings
one questions:To what exactly where u referring in your last post?
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I have difficulty expressing emotion. It would be close to impossible for me to explain to him in a coherent manner.

Anyway, Phoenix's secrets...does he believe that people need to know them? Maybe eventually, but at the beginning, maybe he sees no reason to share them.
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I have an honest question to ask all of you. In GS5, if Phoenix still plays a major role and no mention of Iris is present, will you still ship the pairing? :hobohodo:
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I have an honest question to ask all of you. In GS5, if Phoenix still plays a major role and no mention of Iris is present, will you still ship the pairing? :hobohodo:


I will ship even if there's an alternate canon pairing for Phoenix.
Not to say the level of fanaticism I will display.
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Well assuming Apollo is still the main character (which I darn well hope he is), just because Iris isn't mentioned doesn't mean that she isn't present in Phoenix's life. The game takes place from Apollo's viewpoint, so we don't know much about Phoenix's private life.
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Of course I will! I'm not one to shed convictions easily.
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Of course I will! I'm not one to shed convictions easily.


Who says we're not dedicated? ^_^
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Well assuming Apollo is still the main character (which I darn well hope he is), just because Iris isn't mentioned doesn't mean that she isn't present in Phoenix's life. The game takes place from Apollo's viewpoint, so we don't know much about Phoenix's private life.


As much as I would like to agree with that, sooner or later there will have to be an explaination on Phoenix's lovelife if he plays a major role. Trucy will have to bring it up.
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Well assuming Apollo is still the main character (which I darn well hope he is), just because Iris isn't mentioned doesn't mean that she isn't present in Phoenix's life. The game takes place from Apollo's viewpoint, so we don't know much about Phoenix's private life.


As much as I would like to agree with that, sooner or later there will have to be an explaination on Phoenix's lovelife if he plays a major role. Trucy will have to bring it up.

I posted something concerning this earlyer here
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Of course I will! I'm not one to shed convictions easily.


Who says we're not dedicated? ^_^

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that it'll take truly powerful(a.k.a. MANY canon references and statements) to change my mind, because I'm stubborn as an ox.
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I think there´ll never be canon pairings
which aren´t married in the game
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I think there´ll never be canon pairings
which aren´t married in the game


Gumshoe/Maggey says hi.

Anyway, I've sort of lost my love for this pairing recently.

I still like it, but it's just not my favorite anymore.
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I think there´ll never be canon pairings
which aren´t married in the game


Gumshoe/Maggey says hi.

Anyway, I've sort of lost my love for this pairing recently.

I still like it, but it's just not my favorite anymore.

they never said they are lovers in fact
Capcom is mean concerning things like that :edgeworth:
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I think there´ll never be canon pairings
which aren´t married in the game


Perhaps we should move this to the debate thread but all I'm looking for is confermation on whether Phoenix has a lovelife or just close friend contact. A shipping is a lovelife. Phoenix can say, he doesn't have to reveal on screen who's his girlfriend, just he's in a relationship. I think that would be the best idea for GS5 regarding this matter.

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Anyway, I've sort of lost my love for this pairing recently.


Personally I'm losing my love for this pairing myself.
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I have an honest question to ask all of you. In GS5, if Phoenix still plays a major role and no mention of Iris is present, will you still ship the pairing? :hobohodo:
Probably, but the fact remains that it did happen once even if it won't happen now.
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Personally I'm losing my love for this pairing myself.

NickxEdgey n JeanxIris r deh smex.

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In GS5, if Phoenix still plays a major role and no mention of Iris is present, will you still ship the pairing? :hobohodo:

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I don't think Pearl would be *happy* with Iris, but she'd be glad to find out she wasn't alone and might even someday be happy for Phoenix and Iris. Nor would she forget Maya. Pearl has a happy nature and can hold a lot of people in her heart.

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